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 Subject :Installing Linux.. 2009-08-15 15:20:56 
Rbrownlie
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Hey i just downloaded linux mint but i dont know if i should install it, because i dont know what will happen when its installed; will it´╗┐ delete everything i have and then make linux mint the only os? and if it does run alongside my current os, (which is windows vista) how would i access it? do i restart the computer, or do i click a desktop icon and then it would start?

Ok, heres an update: all i did was download a file called LinuxMint-7-Universal.iso and I am running Windows Vista on a hp dv4 laptop. I have experienced Linux before, which was Ubuntu, and I had no problem having to OS except for the fact that when I was running Ubuntu, there was no sound. So, I started to look for another popular distro, and I ffound this one, and I was running if this would be any better.
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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-15 14:35:42 
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You can potentially install them side by side but I would recommend trying out Linux Mint on a Live CD first.

you will need to:

-Burn an .iso image to CD
-Restart computer with CD in and tell computer too boot to the CD instead of the hard drive.

I will help you. What step are you at now?
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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-15 14:38:16 
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The very first thing to do is to back up anything that you want to save...because if anything goes wrong you will lose that. You have several options:

1: Run Linux alone
Wipe out the drive and create a fresh install.
2. Try to add it to the drive
If you want to dual boot windows and Linux you will have to partition your drive to fit Linux onto the drive. If you added a new drive for Linux you could leave the windows alone.

What version of windows do you have and what space is available on the drive.
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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-15 15:52:01 
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@Rbrownlie Do you have the option of burning that file onto a CD?
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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-15 21:04:29 
Rbrownlie
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So far, everything has gone according to plan: I was able to install Linux on my computer while keeping vista, and the laptop did not crash! I like this distrobution much more than Ubuntu. However, there is one problem: there is no sound coming out of the laptop's speakers. There is sound when I use a headset. Can anyone help me fix this problem? This is the only problem I am having with Linux.
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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-16 02:30:52 
aweber
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This is a bug in Ubuntu #269027. It should be easily fixed. What type of laptop do you have?
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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-16 10:47:20 
Rbrownlie
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My laptop is an HP dv4t. I am not sure if you know the model, but there must be some sort of package I can install to fix this problem. I hope there is, because I cant understand the instructions you sent me. (i know, im a noob)
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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-16 10:51:46 
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Sound Problems:
Go to system/Preferences/Sound and when it opens you will see Sound Events, Music and Movies, audio Conferencing, etc. you can see there is an option to select the sound device and then test. Work through this list and test so that you can hear the sound devices. It looks like your sound works you just need to adjust these settings.
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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-16 12:36:21 
Rbrownlie
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do you mean sound preferences? if you do, which sound setting do i go to; Audio Conferencing? Default Mixer Tracks?

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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-16 12:53:50 
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Yes...change each one and use the test as you should hear sound. Note that most of them are on AutoDetection. The issue is that you have several hardware options here and you need to select the one that works, as you are using a headset it will be different than the internal speakers of the laptop.
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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-16 13:27:03 
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When I try to test some of the settings, I get messages like this: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback. Device is being used by another application. Does this mean my computer is not compatible with sound from a linux os? also, do all the sound settings have to be the same, such ass OSS from one setting has to be matched up with OSS?
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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-16 13:49:01 
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OK..let's see if we can view the which process is using the sound, do this command at the command line and post it here so I can see it:

ps -ef
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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-16 13:56:36 
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bash: ps-elf: command not found
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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-16 13:59:12 
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In order to run a command at the command line you must have a space after the command:

ps <space> -ef

ps -ef
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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-16 14:04:07 
Rbrownlie
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HOLY SH%T it gave me this huge line of stuff, Check this out:

UID PID PPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD
root 1 0 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/init
root 2 0 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kthreadd]
root 3 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [migration/0]
root 4 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
root 5 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [watchdog/0]
root 6 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [migration/1]
root 7 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [ksoftirqd/1]
root 8 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [watchdog/1]
root 9 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [events/0]
root 10 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [events/1]
root 11 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [khelper]
root 12 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kstop/0]
root 13 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kstop/1]
root 14 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kintegrityd/0]
root 15 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kintegrityd/1]
root 16 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kblockd/0]
root 17 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kblockd/1]
root 18 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kacpid]
root 19 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kacpi_notify]
root 20 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [cqueue]
root 21 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [ata/0]
root 22 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [ata/1]
root 23 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [ata_aux]
root 24 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [ksuspend_usbd]
root 25 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [khubd]
root 26 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kseriod]
root 27 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kmmcd]
root 28 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [btaddconn]
root 29 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [btdelconn]
root 30 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [pdflush]
root 31 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [pdflush]
root 32 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kswapd0]
root 33 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [aio/0]
root 34 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [aio/1]
root 35 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [ecryptfs-kthrea]
root 38 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_0]
root 39 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_1]
root 40 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_2]
root 41 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_3]
root 42 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_4]
root 43 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_5]
root 44 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_6]
root 45 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_7]
root 46 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kstriped]
root 47 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kmpathd/0]
root 48 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kmpathd/1]
root 49 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kmpath_handlerd]
root 50 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [ksnapd]
root 51 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kondemand/0]
root 52 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kondemand/1]
root 53 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [krfcommd]
root 786 1 1 11:50 ? 00:00:13 mount.ntfs /dev/sda1 /root
root 793 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:01 [loop0]
root 800 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kjournald]
root 935 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/udevd --daemon
root 1638 2 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 [kpsmoused]
root 2289 1 0 11:50 tty4 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty4
root 2290 1 0 11:50 tty5 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty5
root 2295 1 0 11:50 tty2 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2
root 2296 1 0 11:50 tty3 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty3
root 2299 1 0 11:50 tty6 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty6
root 2364 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/acpid -c /etc/acpi/eve
syslog 2403 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/syslogd -u syslog
root 2426 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /v
klog 2428 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/klogd -P /var/run/klogd/km
108 2451 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /bin/dbus-daemon --system
root 2511 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe
mysql 2553 2511 0 11:50 ? 00:00:01 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr
root 2669 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/nmbd -D
root 2673 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D
root 2694 2673 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D
root 2695 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/winbindd
root 2717 2695 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/winbindd
111 2718 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/hald
root 2721 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon
root 2784 2718 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 hald-runner
root 2813 2784 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 hald-addon-input: Listening on /
root 2837 2784 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-generic-
root 2854 2784 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev
root 2861 2784 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-cpufreq
111 2862 2784 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 hald-addon-acpi: listening on ac
root 2880 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/bluetoothd
root 2915 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/gdm
root 2918 2915 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/gdm
root 2921 2918 5 11:50 tty7 00:00:38 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0
root 2946 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --pid-f
root 2959 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/nm-system-settings --c
root 2961 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -f /var/
avahi 2971 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 avahi-daemon: registering [mint.
avahi 2972 2971 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 avahi-daemon: chroot helper
root 3004 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd
root 3032 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/system-tools-backends
daemon 3107 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/atd
root 3135 1 0 11:50 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cron
root 3224 1 0 11:50 tty1 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty1
reid 3248 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --
reid 3261 2918 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 x-session-manager
reid 3398 3261 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus
reid 3401 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with
reid 3402 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 //bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print
reid 3407 1 2 11:51 ? 00:00:13 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start
reid 3408 3407 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse/gconf-
reid 3410 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:01 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2
reid 3422 3261 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/seahorse-agent --execut
reid 3426 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/g
reid 3432 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd
reid 3441 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gvfs//gvfs-fuse-daemon
reid 3446 3261 0 11:51 ? 00:00:03 metacity
reid 3447 3261 0 11:51 ? 00:00:02 gnome-panel
reid 3448 3261 0 11:51 ? 00:00:05 nautilus
reid 3450 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/bonobo-activation/bonob
reid 3453 3261 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 python /usr/share/system-config-
reid 3454 3261 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 bluetooth-applet
reid 3456 3261 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 python /usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUp
reid 3465 3261 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 nm-applet --sm-disable
reid 3470 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 gnome-power-manager
reid 3474 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/notify-osd/notify-osd
reid 3477 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:05 python /usr/lib/linuxmint/mintMe
reid 3480 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:01 mono /usr/lib/tomboy/Tomboy.exe
reid 3483 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:01 /usr/lib/gnome-applets/mixer_app
reid 3491 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-trash --spaw
reid 3555 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-hal-volume-mo
reid 3557 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volum
reid 3571 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-burn --spawn
root 3583 2946 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/dhclient -d -sf /usr/lib/N
reid 3647 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:03 gnome-screensaver
reid 3790 1 14 11:54 ? 00:01:06 /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.13/firefox
reid 4344 3477 3 12:02 ? 00:00:00 gnome-terminal
reid 4347 4344 0 12:02 ? 00:00:00 gnome-pty-helper
reid 4348 4344 0 12:02 pts/0 00:00:00 bash
reid 4363 4348 0 12:02 pts/0 00:00:00 ps -ef
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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-16 14:16:48 
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OK looking at the list here is what is related to audio:

reid 3407 1 2 11:51 ? 00:00:13 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start
reid 3408 3407 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse/gconf-

The top two are related to pulse audio which is the default.

Below you have several other options a mixer applet and volume.

reid 3483 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:01 /usr/lib/gnome-applets/mixer_app
reid 3555 1 0 11:51 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-hal-volume-mo


Kill these last two and see if you get the same errors:

sudo kill 3483
sudo kill 3555

You need to be root to kill those so you will need to add the root command.
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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-16 14:33:35 
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ok i did sudo kill 3483 and then it asked me my password, and then after i enter it i get a error message about something wrong with the volume control, and it said to reload or dont reload, and i clicked reload. once i tried the same command again, it said reid@mint ~ $ sudo kill 3483
[sudo] password for reid:
kill: No such process
Hope i did not do anything wrong..
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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-16 14:35:35 
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If this does not fix it I suspect it is either related to Flash ...have you installed a Flash plugin on the browser. If so close the browser. If that is still not it then it is pulse audio.

Kill the pulse audio processes and try it. Many people have had problems with pulse audio...although it is supposed to be fixed.
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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-16 14:37:48 
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When you kill processes like 3456 they are gone so you cannot run the command against them again. Everything you are doing at this point is not going to be permanent, all you have to do is restart. We are just testing to see if we can find the problem.
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 Subject :Re:Installing Linux.. 2009-08-16 14:39:11 
Rbrownlie
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alright, so i did this:reid@mint ~ $ sudo kill pulseaudio
ERROR: garbage process ID "pulseaudio".
Usage:
kill pid ... Send SIGTERM to every process listed.
kill signal pid ... Send a signal to every process listed.
kill -s signal pid ... Send a signal to every process listed.
kill -l List all signal names.
kill -L List all signal names in a nice table.
kill -l signal Convert between signal numbers and names.
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